what happened to the Spice Girls?

[Stacey0471]

IH, I agree with your Spice Girl line-up, but then I got thinking...gobby docker, reference to Liverpool maybe? Perhaps Mel C could be gobby docker scouse dyke spice. Geri could just be old spice.

[JayStarr]

Darren: Hull Film Festival? Ha, shit, I remember one time I was in Hull. I had been invited to the house of a now-well known personage. We also had fish & chips, in a rolled up newspaper of course. This was many, many years ago, and unfortunately the person has since passed away.

Stacey: I know Mel C. has had more than a few tales told about her and her alleged secret life, but wouldn't Mel B. be more deserving in a sense of the title "Dyke?" She's far more "butch" than any of the others, who are mainly various forms of old-East End stereotype. You know, the cheeky barmaid and all that sort of crap.

For that matter, they could all be munching the rug as I type this. Then again, who knows how many of those musicians in those late 1970s-'80s all woman bands are/were actually rug munchers themselves.

[Stacey0471]

I take your point, Jay. Mel B is more dominant. Mel C is a cross-dressing submissive, in comparison.

[deviantdee]

I was refering to Philip Larkin - Hull's very own
gloom child of poetry.

The quote - 'Arriving in Hull, aged thirty-two, he
[Philip Larkin] wrote to his mother, 'Oh dear, the
future now seems very bleak and difficult' is
still very pertinent.

(Martin Amis added: 'It is in the work 'difficult'
that we hear the authentic quaver of the vale-
tudinarian.')

D.

[JayStarr]

I'm familiar with Philip Larkin. I was making a certain funny and I guess that wasn't clear.

Dark poet.

[deviantdee]

Originally posted by JayForSure:
Darren: Hull Film Festival? Ha, shit, I remember one time I was in Hull. I had been invited to the house of a now-well known personage --

<font size="4" face="Arial">It wasn't ol'Larkin by any chance? I can't really
see him as a fish n'chips man, though.

D.

[JayStarr]

Originally posted by Deviant D:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="4" face="Arial">Originally posted by JayForSure:
Darren: Hull Film Festival? Ha, shit, I remember one time I was in Hull. I had been invited to the house of a now-well known personage --

<font size="4" face="Arial">It wasn't ol'Larkin by any chance? I can't really
see him as a fish n'chips man, though.

D.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="4" face="Arial">No, actually it was the late Mick Ronson.

"Ol' Larkin"...hrmmm. The only Larkin I know of personally, at least that I recall, certainly likes fish, but it is not that person.

[deviantdee]

Don't worry about it.

End of day 1 of Hull Film festivities for me.
Amongst the high- (and low-)lights: got to meet
screenwriter John Godber (Brookside, Grange Hill),
and also, Sean McAllister - both Hull-born-breed-
and-proud blokes. Godber's got a ?2 million BBC2
musical planned - 'Well, if you can't aim for the
stars, then what's the point?' And McAllister's
got a doco-drama about kidnappings in Iraq in the
works.

McAllister's formative works were screened: all of
them invariably situated in grimy Hull circa '88
- '04. McAllister's best work - although I know
he'd disagree (because he claimed that, 'The only
film I think which matters, is the one I made
whilst working in a pea factory') - was a doco about
'Kev', someone quite proud to be have been on the
dole for 18 years. (League of Gentlemen were to
rip off the Back To Work scenes mercilessly, for
'Pauline' and her 'hokey cokey, pig in a pokey.')

Kev looked/looks hard. During Q&A, someone in the
audience kept quipping Sean about him. Sean says,
'He's sitting right behind you, you know.' The
quipper kept on quipping. 'No, seriously, he
really is sitting right behind you.' And he was,
albeit a little fatter than on the circa'98-or-
so doco: 'It's just old age.'

Kev doco denouement: Kev turned out to be a bril-
liant cubist illustrator, but was too self-conscious/
self-critical to sell them. He gave up
illustrating after the doco, because Sean, after
all, exposed his work to the entire world (doco
was screened on the BBC), although Kev now follows
Sean around film festivals, like some sort of
we-can't-even-remember-you-to-even-list-you-in-
the-alphabetic-hierarchy-of-celebs.

Strange world.

D.

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[Ian Rich Rags]

The Kev Doco is great. I saw it when it went out a few years ago. Kev (or Puddy to his friends) was a real character back in the day. He was a promoter at the Welly Club. he had an Avant garde noise ensembe called What Katy did next, with equally bonkers Hullensian Paul Moller. They used to turn up at the Welly in crazy out sized suits anddance very slowly to James Brown records. They were Hulls Gilbert & George. I always thought Kev was some real arty type who had his fingers in loads of pies until I saw the doco and realised he was just a methadone slacker who was basically too lazy to use his talents. Fit bird though.

[deviantdee]

I thought Kev's artwork was really good. Very
Picasso, of course; but a real shame (maybe?)
that he didn't pursuit that route. I had also
had the feeling he simply stopped doing anything
after the doco, but as you say, he got up to all
sorts of things. Kev apparently received mountains
of fan mail - 'Kev, c/o Hull Dole Office' - after
the doco was broadcasted. McAllister's 'Hessle
Road' doco (1988) was quite interesting, too... Even
back then Bransholme was already an apparent no-go
shithole. When I recently edited a short-film
students made about feeling safe on the streets,
in which many people denounced Bransholme, the
BBC embargoed it as being 'potentially libelous'.

My arse.

D.

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